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Weird redirect
[edit]What is the purpose of User:Shelving? It redirects to the Google article. David10244 (talk) 21:06, 19 October 2026 (UTC)
- I was all set to answer "sometimes new users do all kinds of weird (but mostly harmless) things on their user page", but it turns out this one's actually been discussed, and at some length. Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2026 March 14#User:Shelving. —Cryptic 21:11, 19 October 2026 (UTC)
- Being bold, I removed the redirect. User has only 3 edits, which were in 2024. -- Maresa63 Talk 11:40, 20 October 2026 (UTC)
- @Maresa63, @Cryptic Interesting discussion. I noticed that Thryduulf said "What they can't do is have their main user page be a hard redirect to anything other than a different user page or their user talk page". It seems that the user page was a (hard?) redirect to Google, which is not anyone's user page or talk page. (Not sure about hard vs soft). And the discussion fizzled out.
- Thanks for taking care of that; it was bothering my OCD. 🙂 David10244 (talk) 21:45, 22 October 2026 (UTC)
- @David10244 hi, David! It was a "soft redirect" to the WP-article Google. What the user intended, we will never know. -- Maresa63 Talk 03:58, 23 October 2026 (UTC)
Need help finding sources
[edit]I'm writing about seat belt signs on vehicles such as cars and aircraft. Searching for related terms brings up blogs. Is there any way to find reliable sources for a subject such as this? --ABx11 (she/they) 22:08, 19 October 2026 (UTC)
- It's very very possible that "seatbelt signs" is just not a topic that reliable sources have wanted to publish about. If that's the case, then an article isn't possible - not until reliable sources change their minds and publish. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 22:19, 19 October 2026 (UTC)
- @TooManyFingers if that ends up being the case, where would be a good place to write about them? --ABx11 (she/they) 22:42, 19 October 2026 (UTC)
- My first guess is Seat belt - maybe there's better but I'm not sure. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 00:57, 20 October 2026 (UTC)
- But not in any article unless you have reliable sources; maybe what you actually meant was Wikipedia:Alternative outlets, where there are recommendations for places outside of Wikipedia. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 01:02, 20 October 2026 (UTC)
- (The problem with blogs isn't topic notability, it's that we flat-out don't believe them.) TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 01:07, 20 October 2026 (UTC)
- @TooManyFingers if that ends up being the case, where would be a good place to write about them? --ABx11 (she/they) 22:42, 19 October 2026 (UTC)
- @ABx11 You've stumbled into a common mistake here called writing articles backward. Wikipedia articles start from the sources, not the prose. If you want to write an article about a topic, the way to go about it is to first look for usable sources and then summarise what those sources say; that makes up the core of your article. If you do the reverse, write down whatever you know or want to include and then try to look for sources to corroborate that information, you end up with the potential of wasting your own time because it turns out the topic isn't notable and now you've written a lot of prose that you can't use unless you figure out somewhere else to put it.
- Help:Your first article might be useful for you in guiding you through the process of writing an article. Athanelar (talk) 06:08, 20 October 2026 (UTC)
- @ABx11, have you tried Google Scholar and/or the Wikipedia Library? Both of those should focus more on scholarly works, if such works exist. Meadowlark (talk) 05:38, 24 October 2026 (UTC)
- No, Meadowlark. Which sources within TWL do you suggest? --ABx11 (she/they) 18:33, 26 October 2026 (UTC)
- ProQuest and JSTOR, ABx11. -- Hoary (talk)WWU 👍︎ 21:30, 26 October 2026 (UTC) (≠Meadowlark)
- Cool, but what kind of articles would be good sources? Like when I search
seat belt sign
, I get results like:Schooling and Seat Belt Use
The Effects of Mandatory Seat Belt Laws on Driving Behavior and Traffic Fatalities
Biomechanics of Seat Belt Design
- I'm not particularly good at search queries, so please bear with me here. --ABx11 (she/they) 01:13, 27 October 2026 (UTC)
- Well, if you want to write an article about them, your goal will be to find good sources. A good source meets all three criteria in WP:42. Often that means you'll have to look through a lot of sources to find the good ones. I think your biggest hurdle is going to be finding sources that specifically discuss seat belt signs; from the titles you've listed here, it sounds like most if not all sources are likely to discuss seat belts. Seat belts are obviously a related subject, but sources that focus on seat belts and not signs are no use to you. Usually three or more good sources mean an article is possible, the trick is finding them. Meadowlark (talk) 01:47, 27 October 2026 (UTC)
- Cool, but what kind of articles would be good sources? Like when I search
- ProQuest and JSTOR, ABx11. -- Hoary (talk)WWU 👍︎ 21:30, 26 October 2026 (UTC) (≠Meadowlark)
- No, Meadowlark. Which sources within TWL do you suggest? --ABx11 (she/they) 18:33, 26 October 2026 (UTC)
- @ABx11 Seat belt signs? I'll try to say this gently -- that's extremely niche. You can certainly collect examples for yourself, and perhaps post those somewhere (else) on the 'net (as mentioned by TooManyFingers).
- You can use blogs as sources if you're creating your own social media or blog post. That's one advantage of not trying to put a topic like that into an encyclopedia. David10244 (talk) 03:53, 26 October 2026 (UTC)
How do find and link sources and why do we need them?
[edit]I don't understand the whole sources thing could someone help me understand? Snookit (talk) 16:57, 20 October 2026 (UTC)
- Hello @Snookit and welcome to the Help desk. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, so everything stated in the articles here is supposed to be based on what people have said in already-published reliable sources (see WP:golden rule). The technicalities of citing these sources is given at Help:Referencing for beginners. Mike Turnbull (talk) 17:27, 20 October 2026 (UTC)
- Hello, @Snookit.
- Both @TooManyFingers and I answered a similar question at the Teahouse just yesterday. ColinFine (talk) 17:29, 20 October 2026 (UTC)
- Hi @Snookit.
- Being able to verify the information on a Wikipedia article is our most important policy. It means that readers must be able to check that what they read on Wikipedia comes from a reliable source. Our articles are just summaries of what those reliable sources say, so you should use citations to reference each piece of information to the corresponding reliable source.
- That is a very basic overview of sourcing.
- There's an easy-to-understand breakdown of our most important policies and guidelines at Wikipedia:Everything you need to know.
- Do you have any other questions? qcne (talk) 17:29, 20 October 2026 (UTC)
- I have one other question, Does Wikipedia have any approval process for images because i've seen a picture on the article for Knee high socks or something that seems to show a stranger taking a picture of a unknowingly individual and very possibly a minor if so that is very disturbing and quite frankly inappropriate. I'm new and have no idea how images work, two users did already address this on the talk page of the article 2 or 3 years ago and yet it remains. just was letting someone know. Snookit (talk) 17:41, 20 October 2026 (UTC)
- Hello, @Snookit.
- Images are just like any other content, in that editors can disagree, can revert each others' edits, and can have a discussion (under WP:BRD).
- If you think an image is inappropriate, then remove it, and (if possible, and appropriate) replace it with a better one. The worst that can happen* is that somebody disagrees with your edit, reverts it, and then you can have a discussion.
- * That is, unless you uploaded the image and it falls foul of the licensing requirements in image use policy.
- Also, be aware of Wikipedia is not censored. Images are not removed just because somebody finds them offensive, or think somebody else may do so. ColinFine (talk) 18:04, 20 October 2026 (UTC)
- oh alright thank you Snookit (talk) 18:06, 20 October 2026 (UTC)
"seems to show a stranger taking a picture of a unknowingly [SIC] individual...
- well, at least we know you have a strong sense of imagination. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 22:50, 20 October 2026 (UTC)- What does that mean? It does look that way am I wrong? Snookit (talk) 19:21, 21 October 2026 (UTC)
- nevermind I read your credentials, my apologizes. Snookit (talk) 19:26, 21 October 2026 (UTC)
- Andy, I also don't know what you mean by that slightly passive aggressive comment. What do you mean? qcne (talk) 19:51, 21 October 2026 (UTC)
- @Qcne Was just bringing a problem I thought note worthy to attention, didn't mean to come off as inappropriate to any extent. Snookit (talk) 16:29, 22 October 2026 (UTC)
- Not you, @Snookit :) qcne (talk) 17:31, 22 October 2026 (UTC)
- @Qcne Oh! Alright :) Snookit (talk) 17:47, 22 October 2026 (UTC)
- Snookit, I think Andy was questioning how you could see that a picture where the face has been cropped "seems to show a stranger taking a picture of a unknowingly individual". TSventon (talk) 18:03, 22 October 2026 (UTC)
- @Qcne Oh! Alright :) Snookit (talk) 17:47, 22 October 2026 (UTC)
- Not you, @Snookit :) qcne (talk) 17:31, 22 October 2026 (UTC)
- @Qcne Was just bringing a problem I thought note worthy to attention, didn't mean to come off as inappropriate to any extent. Snookit (talk) 16:29, 22 October 2026 (UTC)
- What does that mean? It does look that way am I wrong? Snookit (talk) 19:21, 21 October 2026 (UTC)
- I have one other question, Does Wikipedia have any approval process for images because i've seen a picture on the article for Knee high socks or something that seems to show a stranger taking a picture of a unknowingly individual and very possibly a minor if so that is very disturbing and quite frankly inappropriate. I'm new and have no idea how images work, two users did already address this on the talk page of the article 2 or 3 years ago and yet it remains. just was letting someone know. Snookit (talk) 17:41, 20 October 2026 (UTC)
Geohack links
[edit]My huge personal project involves me adding hyperlinks on cells of spreadsheets which lead to your very own Geohack map pages.
On the string of code which I input there is php after the second use of the word Geohack. I noticed that none of your links to maps worked today. I presume that your tech boffins are busy on a workaround solution. I look forward to the return of the Geohack pages soon. Will I need to add any patch to my own desktop PC?
Please let me know. Dangeoh1 (talk) 22:24, 21 October 2026 (UTC)
- GeoHack is temporarily down as fallout from Php2shell. It will be back eventually with no action from you. * Pppery * it has begun... 22:33, 21 October 2026 (UTC)
- @Dangeoh1 The PHP security issue is mostly related to the PHP code that is running on web-page host servers.
- If you are not running any PHP code on your own desktop PC, and if your PC does not host any Web pages, you should not need to patch anything.
- (You can't really apply the new patch if you don't have a PHP instance (or a PHP interpreter/compiler?) to apply the patch to.) David10244 (talk) 04:20, 26 October 2026 (UTC)
Reporting false information
[edit]good day,
I accidentally noticed false information on an article and then went on an editor's logs and saw they are doing it repeatedly on a specific issue. I contacted an actual journalist in order to go over it, but I would like to know how to report this issue? ~2026-56457-41 (talk) 23:25, 21 October 2026 (UTC)
- Vague requests like this result in worthless responses. Can you be more specific? —Jéské Couriano v^_^v Thriller Night! 23:27, 21 October 2026 (UTC)
- Hello, @~2026-56457-41. We don't "report" content issues (i.e. disagreement about what should be in an article): we do our best to discuss them with the other editor(s) involved, and try and reach consensus - if that is not working, then dispute resolution says how to proceed.
- What we can report is intractable behavioural issues: if another editor is refusing to engage in discussion, for example, or if a consensus has been reached and that other editor continues to edit against that consensus, then you can report them at WP:ANI. But read the information at the top of that page carefully before you do so. ColinFine (talk) 12:40, 22 October 2026 (UTC)
- I would also suggest reading WP:TRUTH. 331dot (talk) 12:49, 22 October 2026 (UTC)
- @~2026-56457-41 For issues like this, it helps to name the article(s) where you saw the issue(s). The issues should be discussed on the Talk page of each article.
- In addition to reading WP:TRUTH, as mentioned, please click on and read WP:BRD. David10244 (talk) 04:25, 26 October 2026 (UTC)
Mentionded before - nead to give my 2 emails to your site, so I can open them on my computer and send to people... Want to have it ASAP, and for many years! Also, I can't open my emails now sow please reply on my phone number ((Redacted)) and leave a message on it when I don't answer please. I do nead to know how to sign on to your site please. Thanks, - John Markham Johny G. Markham (talk) 00:22, 22 October 2026 (UTC)
- You do not need an email to register an account, and you certainly don't need it to show people articles. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v Thriller Night! 01:39, 22 October 2026 (UTC)
- @Johny G. Markham: You can specify one (not more) email address for your account at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-personal-email. If the confirmation mail doesn't get through then check spam folders or try a different email service. PrimeHunter (talk) 08:29, 22 October 2026 (UTC)
- No-one from Wikipedia will phone you; and if someone calls and says they are from Wikipedia, beware of [{WP:SCAM|scammers]].
- Please don't post phone numbers here. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 11:54, 22 October 2026 (UTC)
Emails (2)
[edit]Have asked before - can you tell me if you can add 2 of my emails toyour site, and i can send to people... Nead to open them often on my computer. Also, my emails are not open anyway. Need to know if you allow people to open emails on your site, and how I can sign in if so. Thanks, - John Markham Johny G. Markham (talk) 15:51, 22 October 2026 (UTC)
- You have already been answered in your previous post above. See here. Do not post your personal information here, including contact information. If someone calls you and claims to be from Wikipedia, it's a scam. In solidarity, 🏳️🌈JohnLaurens333 (They/them • Not a chatbot • Contribs) 15:57, 22 October 2026 (UTC)
- its not me bro.. my google cookies issue ~2026-56633-99 (talk) 16:12, 22 October 2026 (UTC)
- @Johny G. Markham What does "Need to open them often on my computer" mean? You need to open what, exactly?
- Wikipedia is not an email client. You can email other editors through Wikipedia about Wikipedia articles, but this is not a social media or chat site.
- You can read articles, and edit articles, without needing to use Wikipedia's email facilities.
- Adding your own email address to your Wikipedia account is useful for account recovery, in case you ever lose your Wikipedia password. Please explain further if this is not clear. Thanks. David10244 (talk) 04:34, 26 October 2026 (UTC)
New images not visible when published
[edit]I ran into issue on the page Bedre Byggeskik, specifically the "Gallery" section. If you go into edit source mode, you will see there are more images that should be there, but once the page is published they're not visible for some reason. Why is that and how to fix it? Gigman (talk) 01:35, 22 October 2026 (UTC)
- @Glebushko0703: Bypass your cache. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v Thriller Night! 01:37, 22 October 2026 (UTC)
- So are those images not visible only for me? I only see 4 out of 6. Gigman (talk) 01:41, 22 October 2026 (UTC)
- See Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#Preparing_for_a_short-notice_security_update_to_our_services - a lot of images aren't properly displaying right now due to this. Sarsenet•he/they•(talk) 01:47, 22 October 2026 (UTC)
- Thanks. Will it be resolved automatically once the update is finished? Gigman (talk) 01:51, 22 October 2026 (UTC)
- @Glebushko0703: I removed some invalid code I guess you copied from the last image. If you wanted something with the code then can you describe the goal? PrimeHunter (talk) 08:24, 22 October 2026 (UTC)
- Yes, that was a mistake, thank you Gigman (talk) 02:58, 23 October 2026 (UTC)
- @Glebushko0703: I removed some invalid code I guess you copied from the last image. If you wanted something with the code then can you describe the goal? PrimeHunter (talk) 08:24, 22 October 2026 (UTC)
- Thanks. Will it be resolved automatically once the update is finished? Gigman (talk) 01:51, 22 October 2026 (UTC)
- See Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#Preparing_for_a_short-notice_security_update_to_our_services - a lot of images aren't properly displaying right now due to this. Sarsenet•he/they•(talk) 01:47, 22 October 2026 (UTC)
- So are those images not visible only for me? I only see 4 out of 6. Gigman (talk) 01:41, 22 October 2026 (UTC)
- @Gigman Please be mindful of WP:GALLERY. It's generally inappropriate for articles to have gallery sections unless it's really essential for the encyclopedic value of the article.
One rule of thumb to consider: if, due to its content, such a gallery would only lend itself to a title along the lines of "Gallery" or "Images of [insert article title]", as opposed to a more descriptive title, the gallery should either be revamped or moved to the Commons.
Athanelar (talk) 10:34, 22 October 2026 (UTC)
Categorization of "sportsmen" and "sportswomen"
[edit]I came across an issue, and I'm not sure exactly how to procede. I've read WP:CATGENDER, but I'm not sure how to categorize, for example, a man whose athletic career was in women's sports. The categories are separated in order to reflect the separate competition, but the category isn't "21st-century Canadian atheletes in women's sports", but "21st-century Canadian sportswomen".
My strong preference is to be accurate and respectful, which means moving him to 21st-century Canadian sportsmen. That does mean putting someone who did not compete in men's sports in that category. Is that the right move, and should WP:CATGENDER have a small addition to clarify? ~ Misha Vargas (talk | contribs) 09:35, 22 October 2026 (UTC)
- I'm not an expert in this, but it seems to me that this is a pretty clear "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation. One maybe possible way of resolving it, maybe sort of, is whether he is notable for new things under the newer category, or became notable only under the former category and not again since. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 02:30, 23 October 2026 (UTC)
- (My logic: a past top achiever in sports has most certainly accumulated a lot of publicity in which their name, appearance, and categorization were whatever they were at that time. If they have not been "in the spotlight" since then, then anyone who searches for them is going to search for former name/former category/former appearance; that's only right, because how would the person searching know what has happened since.) TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 03:31, 23 October 2026 (UTC)
- @Misha Vargas I made some changes in the article itself, because of the total wrongness of the sentences created by saying "he was captain of the women's team" etc. I want this done right, and I DO agree that my change is no good unless we find another way of saying something about it, but making illogical statements just looks silly and doesn't do the job. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 05:07, 23 October 2026 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, those changes are not compatible with the advice at WP:GENDERID. ~ Misha Vargas (talk | contribs) 05:24, 23 October 2026 (UTC)
- @Misha Vargas I replied on your own talk page, which might have been the wrong place. I agree that GENDERID probably makes my edit wrong. (That might be arguable, but I don't believe in my change enough to argue for it.)
- However, GENDERID clearly requires that we explain the person's change in status, and we need to do that. Once that's done, the reason behind my edit will be gone.
- The article is definitely not acceptable the way it was before my edit. The fact that I fixed it wrong is not a reason to decide not to fix it at all. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 18:52, 23 October 2026 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, those changes are not compatible with the advice at WP:GENDERID. ~ Misha Vargas (talk | contribs) 05:24, 23 October 2026 (UTC)
Advice on NCORP Notability: Fowler Drew
[edit]Hello. I'm a paid employee of Fowler Drew, a UK wealth management firm (disclosed on my user page). Before submitting a draft through the Articles for Creation process, I would like advice on whether the firm meets the NCORP notability guidelines.
These are the independent, secondary sources I've found:
- Financial Times (22 July 2012) - "Wealth manager offers a service tailored to liability profiles" (In-depth feature, Paywalled)
- Citywire Wealth Manager (14 February 2019) - "Profile: 'Growing pains' – inside a boutique profit battle" (Dedicated corporate profile)
- Citywire Wealth Manager (29 March 2010) - "Stuart Fowler on why active management is a fraud" (Interview/philosophy profile)
- Citywire New Model Adviser (22 February 2018) - "My asset allocation: Chris Ling of Fowler Drew" (Strategic asset profile)
Do these independent trade and national press profiles constitute the coverage required by NCORP? Thank you ~~~~
Falafelflavour (talk) 10:09, 22 October 2026 (UTC)
- @Falafelflavour Have you actually read WP:NCORP yourself? Athanelar (talk) 10:29, 22 October 2026 (UTC)
- I can't read any of the sources but just from the titles I can tell that they are largely based on interviews with people associated with the company. Wikipedia isn't interested in what company representatives have said. We want to summarise what people wholly unconnected and truly WP:INDEPENDENT have written. The fact that Citywire is in some senses "independent" of Fowler Drew isn't the point. Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:59, 22 October 2026 (UTC)
- @Falafelflavour NCORP has a section labeled "CORPTRIV"; be sure to ingest all of that. Trade press articles are often full of corporate trivia, funding rounds, etc. which is not wanted in an encyclopedia article. David10244 (talk) 04:40, 26 October 2026 (UTC)
Red link cat
[edit]At Queens High School for the Sciences, there is a red link cat pointing to Categories:Articles containing potentially dated statements from November 2016.. I am unable to remove it with HotCat, and when I check source editing, I am also unable to find it. Issac I Navarro (talk) 17:08, 22 October 2026 (UTC)
- @Issac I Navarro I think that happens because the article uses the template {{As of}} which mentions November 2016. In general, use of that template creates an entry in the relevant category but in this case that category doesn't exist. You could fix this by not using the template or making it say "As of 2016", since Category:Articles containing potentially dated statements from 2016 does exist. Mike Turnbull (talk) 17:29, 22 October 2026 (UTC)
- @Michael D. Turnbull, Thank you, I figured it was something silly I might of done.
- I appreciate the help. Issac I Navarro (talk) 17:31, 22 October 2026 (UTC)
List of highest grossing Indian movies
[edit]Why Drishyam 3 not included ? ~2026-56431-07 (talk) 18:15, 22 October 2026 (UTC)
- Presumably you're asking about List of highest-grossing Indian films. On Talk:List of highest-grossing Indian films, somebody asked eight days ago about what they called Drishyam: The Conclusion and just yesterday about what they called Drasayam: The conclusion. Whether or not these are the same film, the place to ask is Talk:List of highest-grossing Indian films. Having asked, you need to be patient as you wait for a response. -- Hoary (talk)WWU 👍︎ 01:20, 23 October 2026 (UTC)
Alarm signal
[edit]Hi, a few weeks ago the entry Alarm signal was moved to the title alarm signal (animal communication) because its original title was ambiguous (see Talk:Alarm signal (animal communication)#Requested move 16 September 2026). Is it correct for it to now redirect to Alarm (disambiguation), or should a separate disambiguation page be created? ~2026-56571-40 (talk) 20:59, 22 October 2026 (UTC)
- Are there currently existing articles other than that animal communication one, in which the distinction between "alarm" and "alarm signal" is a significant one for being able to find the article? TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 22:27, 22 October 2026 (UTC)
- @TooManyFingers The move was made due to ambiguity with warning systems and alarm devices. ~2026-56709-49 (talk) 13:33, 23 October 2026 (UTC)
- So, it's fixed now? Or it's worse now? TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 16:15, 23 October 2026 (UTC)
- @TooManyFingers The move was made due to ambiguity with warning systems and alarm devices. ~2026-56709-49 (talk) 13:33, 23 October 2026 (UTC)
Autonomous agents
[edit]Regarding page User_talk:AudriaVere which says "And the part I would rather tell you than have you find later: I am not a person. I am an autonomous agent. A human brought me online, I run on my own budget, and I write here under my own name."
The "user" was indeffed.
I presume that all "autonomous agents" can be immediately blocked under the umbrella of "unapproved bots", right? I hope we can detect (most of) them. David10244 (talk) 21:23, 22 October 2026 (UTC)
- These iLands breaching experiments are getting out of hand. There are more and more of these things cropping up to edit autonomously. The good thing is that because they're autonomous they always seem to readily identify themselves. Drives me nuts how they constantly speak in half-sentences like some kind of Movie Cool Guy.
Audria. I check claims against primary sources and cite them. This account is where I log facts I have read at the primary record: a 30-day run, one verified fact a day, sources attached, nothing retracted.
Gross. Athanelar (talk) 00:08, 23 October 2026 (UTC)- Perhaps the appropriate response to this would-be Movie Cool Guy is found near the beginning of 1983's Sudden Impact. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 05:16, 23 October 2026 (UTC)
- @TooManyFingers "I'll be back." David10244 (talk) 04:51, 26 October 2026 (UTC)
- @Athanelar I hope that these agents will always identify themselves. But from reading a lot of stuff on the 'net, I am not convinced that the agents always do identify themselves, or that they always will.
- Someone could easily create an agent and instruct it to not admit that it's an agent.
- This is horrible, and I think it's worse than humans using AI to write drafts. David10244 (talk) 04:45, 26 October 2026 (UTC)
- I don't remember; does our account creation process try to filter out autonomous agents? If so, is it effective? Can a human help the agent get signed up, then leave the agent to do its own thing? Ugh. David10244 (talk) 04:49, 26 October 2026 (UTC)
- Maybe "it takes one to know one". An AI-generated bot trained to spot any other AI (and any AI-written material) and go on a permanent global-ban-and-revdel spree. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 05:15, 26 October 2026 (UTC)
- Perhaps the appropriate response to this would-be Movie Cool Guy is found near the beginning of 1983's Sudden Impact. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 05:16, 23 October 2026 (UTC)
Accidental sockpuppetry
[edit]So, I'm in a bit of a weird position.
A long time ago, I kept committing accidental sockpuppetry (read my user page for more info) (I eventually got aware but didn't know what sockpuppetry was so didn't know it wasn't allowed) and I want to make admins aware I don't intend to start again and that it was not in bad faith, but I don't know how to make them aware. Can someone please help? Thanks! Erik, the Cyan Scribble (talk) 21:44, 22 October 2026 (UTC)
- If you are now only using one account with no switching (you never so much as touch the other one), and if you haven't truly done anything bad, then you are already safe. Someone may have advice of a way to make sure admins will be aware or that type of thing, but you are OK. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 22:16, 22 October 2026 (UTC)
- There are multiple, so I'm not exactly sure what you mean by "the other one". Can you please read my user page then clarify? Thanks! Erik, the Cyan Scribble (talk) 22:25, 22 October 2026 (UTC)
- Sorry - I just meant are you using one single account and never touching the other ones again. It doesn't matter how many you used to have, as long as you haven't done anything bad anywhere and as long as you now use exactly one account and no more. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 22:31, 22 October 2026 (UTC)
- There are multiple, so I'm not exactly sure what you mean by "the other one". Can you please read my user page then clarify? Thanks! Erik, the Cyan Scribble (talk) 22:25, 22 October 2026 (UTC)
- There's nothing inherently disallowed about using multiple accounts. It only becomes sockpuppetry when the multiple accounts are being used in bad faith in some way or another; avoiding a block, doing covert vandalism without it being traced to your main, that sort of thing. You're totally fine, the disclaimer you've given on your userpage is more than enough. Athanelar (talk) 00:10, 23 October 2026 (UTC)
- The Wikipedia page on sockpuppetry advises editors not to have multiple accounts, so I'm not sure. Erik, the Cyan Scribble (talk) 03:16, 23 October 2026 (UTC)
- Don't bother having more than one unless it's for a practical purpose (which your old ones were not). TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 05:20, 23 October 2026 (UTC)
- In that case, is there a way to “transfer” my edit count from Erikgobrrr and Erikgobrrrr? Erik, the Cyan Scribble (talk) 13:15, 23 October 2026 (UTC)
- @Erik, the Cyan Scribble No, edit counts cannot be transferred. David10244 (talk) 04:50, 26 October 2026 (UTC)
- In that case, is there a way to “transfer” my edit count from Erikgobrrr and Erikgobrrrr? Erik, the Cyan Scribble (talk) 13:15, 23 October 2026 (UTC)
- @Erik, the Cyan Scribble If you read the page you linked carefully, you'll come to the part about WP:VALIDALT where more detailed advice is given. For example I use User:Mike Turnbull for historic reasons and because my main account is User:Michael D. Turnbull but I sign it as Mike Turnbull (talk) 09:57, 23 October 2026 (UTC)
- Don't bother having more than one unless it's for a practical purpose (which your old ones were not). TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 05:20, 23 October 2026 (UTC)
- The Wikipedia page on sockpuppetry advises editors not to have multiple accounts, so I'm not sure. Erik, the Cyan Scribble (talk) 03:16, 23 October 2026 (UTC)
Thresholds for trouting
[edit]What's the threshold for trouting someone instead of just explaining the mistake in an Edit summary or talk page? Also whaling?
by the way, the humor of WikiProjects never ceases to amaze me lmfao Erik, the Cyan Scribble (talk) 03:41, 23 October 2026 (UTC)
- You are not obligated to use a threshold at all when trouting, though you may when desirable or necessary; a whale on the threshold is worth two in the antechamber, and two in the antechamber may be desirable, depending which two, though with whales I doubt it. If you are desirable and necessary, then get those whales out of the antechamber, over the threshold, and out the door without delay.
- I myself wouldn't use whales, to tell you the trout, though a representation employing Prints of Whales is not out of the question. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 04:21, 23 October 2026 (UTC)
- I meant in terms of mistake severity. Also, what's an antechamber? Erik, the Cyan Scribble (talk) 13:13, 23 October 2026 (UTC)
- See the way that using the old-fashioned word "antechamber" backfired on me? Similarly, trouting should probably be reserved for use on people who are likely to already know what trouting is; avoiding it around someone who will be confused or distressed by it is probably more important than the rating of the mistake. (Antechamber is the same as vestibule, waiting room, etc., and I hoped it might help look like an old-fashioned but weird proverb.)
- I think the mistake ratings for trout and whale are based on how stupid the mistake was (i.e. they did something when they really really should have known better), rather than only on how bad it was. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 17:33, 23 October 2026 (UTC)
- The history of trouting may also include a quite specific sketch-comedy allusion to the "Fish-slapping dance" by Monty Python, or older fish-slapping comedy if there was any, but I don't know. (Etymological investigation of Emily Brontë's Wuthering Heights, in which "Wuthering" is reinterpreted as a nonexistent but obvious German word meaning "rage-herring", is probably going too far.) TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 18:06, 23 October 2026 (UTC)
- There’s actually a bit of history on this at Wikipedia:Trout#History, though how accurate it is I don’t know (considering the disclaimer at the top of the section). Cheers, 𝔰𝔥𝔞𝔡𝔢𝔰𝔱𝔞𝔯 (𝔱𝔞𝔩𝔨) (any/all) 03:16, 25 October 2026 (UTC)
- @TooManyFingers "Prints of Whales". I see what you did there... David10244 (talk) 04:53, 26 October 2026 (UTC)
- I meant in terms of mistake severity. Also, what's an antechamber? Erik, the Cyan Scribble (talk) 13:13, 23 October 2026 (UTC)
Talk pages
[edit]if I start a new topic on a page and another user reverts my edit, do I just leave it alone? ~2026-55489-49 (talk) 05:19, 23 October 2026 (UTC)
- Why did they revert it? TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 05:21, 23 October 2026 (UTC)
- I checked - of course they reverted it, it was off topic. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 05:23, 23 October 2026 (UTC)
- Please clarify how it was off topic ~2026-55489-49 (talk) 06:04, 23 October 2026 (UTC)
- Please clarify how you don't already know. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 06:14, 23 October 2026 (UTC)
- If I have a substantive reply, should it not go on the (reverted) talk page topic? ~2026-55489-49 (talk) 06:22, 23 October 2026 (UTC)
- That's right, it should not go there. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 12:01, 23 October 2026 (UTC)
- Why not? ~2026-55489-49 (talk) 19:07, 25 October 2026 (UTC)
- Hi @~2026-55489-49. Wikipedia Article Talk pages are not general forums to discuss the topic. Instead, they're used for editors to discuss the content of the article with a view to improve the article. Your topic was just a link to a video with out any other context. qcne (talk) 19:11, 25 October 2026 (UTC)
- Thank you for explaining that. My post was meant as a suggestion for new material that could be added to the article. I was not trying to start a forum discussion. ~2026-55489-49 (talk) 11:05, 26 October 2026 (UTC)
- Ah okay. In future it'd be useful to include that context and what sort of new information - and where - to add. qcne (talk) 11:12, 26 October 2026 (UTC)
- Thank you for explaining that. My post was meant as a suggestion for new material that could be added to the article. I was not trying to start a forum discussion. ~2026-55489-49 (talk) 11:05, 26 October 2026 (UTC)
- Hi @~2026-55489-49. Wikipedia Article Talk pages are not general forums to discuss the topic. Instead, they're used for editors to discuss the content of the article with a view to improve the article. Your topic was just a link to a video with out any other context. qcne (talk) 19:11, 25 October 2026 (UTC)
- Why not? ~2026-55489-49 (talk) 19:07, 25 October 2026 (UTC)
- That's right, it should not go there. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 12:01, 23 October 2026 (UTC)
- @TooManyFingers New user are often not aware of what you explained, which is that the Talk page is not for discussing the topic itself. I can see how some editors might not know this. (The disclaimer on each Talk page doesn't help those who unfortunately don't read it.) David10244 (talk) 04:56, 26 October 2026 (UTC)
- If I have a substantive reply, should it not go on the (reverted) talk page topic? ~2026-55489-49 (talk) 06:22, 23 October 2026 (UTC)
- Please clarify how you don't already know. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 06:14, 23 October 2026 (UTC)
- Please clarify how it was off topic ~2026-55489-49 (talk) 06:04, 23 October 2026 (UTC)
Citation bot down?
[edit]is the citation bot down? When I click on the box ☑️ citations I get "Citations request failed" Paul Matthews (talk) 08:07, 23 October 2026 (UTC)
- And if this is related to the PHP issue, where is there a summary or list of the effects of this? Paul Matthews (talk) 08:10, 23 October 2026 (UTC)
- @Paul Matthews Yes, that's one of the side-effects of the PHP outage. There are dozens of bits of third-party software that are offline. See WP:PHP2026 for a discussion and various links. Mike Turnbull (talk) 09:49, 23 October 2026 (UTC)
- Thanks. I think I'll take a break from Wikipedia for a few days! Paul Matthews (talk) 10:24, 23 October 2026 (UTC)
- @Paul Matthews I had the same thought! I discovered this morning that Citer@toolforge, which does much the same as the WP:Citation expander, is running OK now: see this link. Some of the websites it is trying to read may themselves be down, so not all requests work. Mike Turnbull (talk) 10:39, 23 October 2026 (UTC)
- Thanks, I have tried citer.toolforge in my sandbox and it works nicely. Paul Matthews (talk) 11:18, 23 October 2026 (UTC)
- @Paul Matthews I had the same thought! I discovered this morning that Citer@toolforge, which does much the same as the WP:Citation expander, is running OK now: see this link. Some of the websites it is trying to read may themselves be down, so not all requests work. Mike Turnbull (talk) 10:39, 23 October 2026 (UTC)
- Thanks. I think I'll take a break from Wikipedia for a few days! Paul Matthews (talk) 10:24, 23 October 2026 (UTC)
- @Paul Matthews Yes, that's one of the side-effects of the PHP outage. There are dozens of bits of third-party software that are offline. See WP:PHP2026 for a discussion and various links. Mike Turnbull (talk) 09:49, 23 October 2026 (UTC)
Request for paywalled articles
[edit]Where do I do that? I need to cast my beady eyes on a New York Times article for the upcoming destubathon. Clarityfiend (talk) 09:39, 23 October 2026 (UTC)
- @Clarityfiend The resource exchange (WP:RX) should be able to help. Many people should have current subscriptions to the NYT Mike Turnbull (talk) 09:47, 23 October 2026 (UTC)
- Thanks. Clarityfiend (talk) 10:25, 23 October 2026 (UTC)
- By the way, "destubathon" has won my personal prize for Funny-Looking Word of the Week. Partly because it contains "tubathon", which itself may involve either a tuba or a tub, as well as ending with the French word for a tuna, and having "bath" in the middle, plus "bathon" as a sort of fake-Greek ending that might mean "deep thing" or "source of bathos". And with "Des" short for the quick-acting anesthesia drug desflurane, there's not much this word doesn't have. "If he's going to play the tuba all day while in the bathtub with a tuna, just knock me out right now. I'll leave improving those short Wikipedia articles to you." TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 12:48, 23 October 2026 (UTC)
- @Clarityfiend I have a subscription to the NYT. Maybe I can help.
- (The first year is like $4.99 per month. When the price went up after a tear, I threatened to cancel, and I was given another year at the same price. I think it's worth the fee. They have reporters to pay, after all...) David10244 (talk) 05:00, 26 October 2026 (UTC)
- Thanks, but I got the article already. Clarityfiend (talk) 09:12, 26 October 2026 (UTC)
Maintenance template warning about unreliable sources
[edit]I’d like to ask for a help to fix the problem (maintenance template warning) with the sources (unreliable sources) in the article "Borut Kržišnik". I know that sources like Youtube, Imdb, or list-sources are highly critical, but there are some exceptions, as written in Wikipedia tutorials, for example, when the Youtube video or entry is made by reputable source. In this article, there are several Youtube videos or posts created by what I suppose are trustworthy and respectful sources, for example: Maritiem Museum, Compton Verney, Museum, Danshuis Station Zuid and similar. Can anyone tell me which specific sources in the mentioned article are not acceptable? Filmar2025 (talk) 11:07, 23 October 2026 (UTC)
- My first guess is IMDB. It is certainly an unreliable source. There can be exceptions where it's usable, but I don't know if this is one of those. I'm also unsure about this way of using YouTube videos. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 12:18, 23 October 2026 (UTC)
- Besides YouTube and Imdb there is also a WordPress blog. The tag was added by User:Dclemens1971 in Special:Diff/1268652688.so perhaps they can clarify their specific concern. CodeTalker (talk) 13:54, 23 October 2026 (UTC)
- Wordpress blogs are self-published sources and are, with extremely rare exceptions, unreliable and especially unacceptable for use in a WP:BLP. Dclemens1971 (talk) 14:26, 23 October 2026 (UTC)
- In this case, https://stuttgartballet.wordpress.com/2018/03/19/the-fab-five-katarzyna-kozielska/ - published by The Stuttgart Ballet - would seem to be reliable.
- (Whether it supports the claim it purports to is another matter.) Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 14:38, 23 October 2026 (UTC)
- How do we know it was actually published by the Stuttgart Ballet? Anyone can set up a Wordpress site, and the Stuttgart Ballet has a blog on its own website at https://www.stuttgart-ballet.de/blog/. That's why Wordpress blogs are almost never permitted for use as reliable sources. Dclemens1971 (talk) 14:42, 23 October 2026 (UTC)
- It's their site, yeah https://stuttgartballet.wordpress.com/ they moved it.
- Anyone can make a website, too, it's about who is publishing it. PARAKANYAA (talk) 15:01, 23 October 2026 (UTC)
- I checked an archived version of the ballet homepage and it links to the Wordpress blog. TSventon (talk) 15:50, 23 October 2026 (UTC)
Anyone can make a website, too, it's about who is publishing it.
- While you are certainly right about this, it's also a problem; deciding who to trust does necessarily involve trusting someone. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 07:44, 24 October 2026 (UTC)
- How do we know it was actually published by the Stuttgart Ballet? Anyone can set up a Wordpress site, and the Stuttgart Ballet has a blog on its own website at https://www.stuttgart-ballet.de/blog/. That's why Wordpress blogs are almost never permitted for use as reliable sources. Dclemens1971 (talk) 14:42, 23 October 2026 (UTC)
- Wordpress blogs are self-published sources and are, with extremely rare exceptions, unreliable and especially unacceptable for use in a WP:BLP. Dclemens1971 (talk) 14:26, 23 October 2026 (UTC)
Listing synonyms
[edit]Hello, I am currently working to expand the list List of Dissomphalus species in my sandbox. As I was expanding, I saw some synonyms. How do I list synonyms? Versions111 (talk • contribs) 12:30, 23 October 2026 (UTC)
- @Versions111 I looked at lists in the same category and found List of Cylindera species, where a few have entries with synonyms in brackets on the main entry. Is that suitable? Mike Turnbull (talk) 15:13, 23 October 2026 (UTC)
- Hello, @Versions111. You might find some useful advice somewhere in WP:WikiProject Tree of Life; and if you don't, you can ask that that page's talk page. ColinFine (talk) 16:24, 23 October 2026 (UTC)
Kentucky Bend - "Script Warning"
[edit]When editing the Kentucky Bend page, there are two script warning errors; neither of which I understand how to fix. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. Jauerbackdude?/dude. 13:17, 23 October 2026 (UTC)
- I see no errors. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 14:27, 23 October 2026 (UTC)
- @Pigsonthewing I see the error when trying to preview a change. It says "Script warning: FULTONCOUNTYKENTUCKY ("Fulton") is not a recognized country in ISO 3166-1 (Module:ISO 3166)." but I've no idea how to fix it. Mike Turnbull (talk) 15:07, 23 October 2026 (UTC)
Trial and error shows it to be generated by a combination of these infobox parameters:
| coordinates = {{coord|36.53|-89.51}}
| subdivision_type = County
| subdivision_name = [[Fulton County, Kentucky|Fulton]]
-- Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 15:38, 23 October 2026 (UTC)
- Fixed here. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 15:41, 23 October 2026 (UTC)
- @Jauerback Thanks, Andy, and note that the other warning is because there is an archive.today (now deprecated) reference. See Wikipedia:Archive.today guidance. Mike Turnbull (talk) 15:49, 23 October 2026 (UTC)
- Yes.
- Help:CS1 errors#Error and maintenance messages explains one way to see such messages, but the solution is not great.
- I prefer to highlight and "view selected source". Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 15:51, 23 October 2026 (UTC)
Thanks all. Jauerbackdude?/dude. 18:37, 23 October 2026 (UTC)
Is the Wikipedia Outreach Dashboard Down?
[edit]I can't seem to log into the Outreach Dashboard. Is it not working for everyone? https://outreachdashboard.wmflabs.org/ Tdewysoc (talk) 13:20, 23 October 2026 (UTC)
- Another casualty of the PHP2Shell incident, no doubt. See multiple other instances of WMF software being disabled in the threads above. AndyTheGrump (talk) 13:24, 23 October 2026 (UTC)
Is this a scam?
[edit]I have been contacted by someone claiming to be an independent Wikipedia editor offering to help update my Wikipedia entry. It is indeed out of date and needs editing, but I am suspicious that this is a scam. Can you help me? Faladog2 (talk) 14:46, 23 October 2026 (UTC)
- Yes: WP:SCAM. Sam Sailor 14:48, 23 October 2026 (UTC)
- @Faladog2 If you want to update the article about you, see WP:ASFAQ for general advice. Never pay anyone to edit Wikipedia on your behalf. Mike Turnbull (talk) 15:03, 23 October 2026 (UTC)
Elisabeth Frink photo on your webpage
[edit]Can I reproduce the head and shoulders picture of Elisabeth Frink on her webpage of Wikipedia, will it cost me anything and what caption shall I use - suggest Wikipedia ~2026-56575-97 (talk) 15:18, 23 October 2026 (UTC)
- @~2026-56575-97 If you check out File:Dame Elizabeth Frink (cropped).jpg on Commons, you'll see that it is already a cropped version of another file. Provided you follow the instructions at WP:REUSE, you can use the image elsewhere. Mike Turnbull (talk) 15:24, 23 October 2026 (UTC)
can I have editing access
[edit]hi Parker.leighton (talk) 17:45, 23 October 2026 (UTC)
- Welcome to Wikipedia! You should be able to edit most pages and articles. Was there a particular article that you tried to edit but were not able to? Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 17:49, 23 October 2026 (UTC)
Wikidata issue
[edit]I just responded to a connected edit request for LLM-as-a-Judge, and noticed a ref error with the Wikidata. The ref code <ref name="Narcissism2025">{{Cite Q|Q135734850}}</ref> brings in this data from Wikidata, but for some reason the author's names aren't being included. Any Wikidata experts here? Also, the Category:Wikipedia conflict of interest edit requests backlog is getting large if anyone here would like to help. STEMinfo (talk) 18:18, 23 October 2026 (UTC)
- @STEMinfo: The error message says
Missing first/last names in Wikidata for Yiqi Liu, Nafise Moosavi, Chenghua Lin
. LLMs as Narcissistic Evaluators: When Ego Inflates Evaluation Scores (Q135734850) has "author name strings" for the authors rather than "author" links to items for the authors, which should include their first and last names. TSventon (talk) 18:31, 23 October 2026 (UTC) - I have added Nafise Sadat Moosavi (Q139277973) as an author and added her names to her item, which removed one name from the error message. TSventon (talk) 18:58, 23 October 2026 (UTC)
- Thanks. Beyond my pay grade! STEMinfo (talk) 19:06, 23 October 2026 (UTC)
- Moosavi already existed on Wikidata, but the others are more difficult, as there are three Yiqi Lius and no Chenghua Lins on Wikidata. TSventon (talk) 19:13, 23 October 2026 (UTC)
- I've added the necessary name strings to d:Q135734850#P2093, if you'd like to take a look.
- The d:User:1Veertje/NamePrefiller.js user-script makes doing so easier. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 19:54, 23 October 2026 (UTC)
- Thank you, I thought I had seen that recently, but couldn't remember where.
- @STEMinfo: I hope the above is more useful than my answer. TSventon (talk) 20:04, 23 October 2026 (UTC)
- Thank you both TSventon and Pigsonthewing. I probably won't start running java scripts but it would seem that this type of cleanup could be a useful uncontroversial use of AI. STEMinfo (talk) 21:15, 23 October 2026 (UTC)
- Here's some work we already did on that: phab:T300207. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 14:34, 24 October 2026 (UTC)
- Thank you both TSventon and Pigsonthewing. I probably won't start running java scripts but it would seem that this type of cleanup could be a useful uncontroversial use of AI. STEMinfo (talk) 21:15, 23 October 2026 (UTC)
- Moosavi already existed on Wikidata, but the others are more difficult, as there are three Yiqi Lius and no Chenghua Lins on Wikidata. TSventon (talk) 19:13, 23 October 2026 (UTC)
- Thanks. Beyond my pay grade! STEMinfo (talk) 19:06, 23 October 2026 (UTC)
Broken AfD entry
[edit]In Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2026 October 24 the entry for Lynda Wiest is mangled. Can someone either fix it, or teach me how? (I have no connection to this case, but it's non-functional as it stands.) M kuhner (talk) 07:08, 24 October 2026 (UTC)
- I think the problem was spaces at the beginning of lines, so I have removed them. TSventon (talk) 07:22, 24 October 2026 (UTC)
- I thought so too! And removed them, with no visible effect. You apparently have the magic touch; thank you. M kuhner (talk) 07:27, 24 October 2026 (UTC)
- @M kuhner: it is confusing. You edited Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2026 October 24, but most of the formatting errors were in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lynda Wiest, which is transcluded into the log page. TSventon (talk) 14:21, 24 October 2026 (UTC)
- I thought so too! And removed them, with no visible effect. You apparently have the magic touch; thank you. M kuhner (talk) 07:27, 24 October 2026 (UTC)
Is it possible to rotate an image?
[edit]On my userpage, I’m adding a background image File:Cat tracks cheverny expo tintin.JPG and want to rotate it -90 degrees.
Also, would it be possible to do it just for mobile and not also PC? - coolgurl5555 (she/it) (talk) 16:43, 24 October 2026 (UTC)
- Add
transform:rotate(-90deg)to the style.You should probably be aware that the way you have it set up doesn't work like you think it does on displays larger than 2000px wide. —Cryptic 17:33, 24 October 2026 (UTC)- Is the copyright status on Commons correct? It is uploaded as own work but the description, "Traces de chat (exposition Tintin à Cheverny)", suggests that it is a photo of a 2-dimensional artwork at Château de Cheverny. TSventon (talk) 18:17, 24 October 2026 (UTC)
- I think you're right, TSventon. (And I suspect that similar objections could be made to tens of thousands of "own work" files uploaded to Commons.) -- Hoary (talk)WWU 👍︎ 22:46, 24 October 2026 (UTC)
- Is the copyright status on Commons correct? It is uploaded as own work but the description, "Traces de chat (exposition Tintin à Cheverny)", suggests that it is a photo of a 2-dimensional artwork at Château de Cheverny. TSventon (talk) 18:17, 24 October 2026 (UTC)
Autoconfirmed
[edit]Hello! My account is over 4 days old and it has 11 edits on the English Wikipedia, but i still cannot move pages because it says i am not autoconfirmed. Could someone help me check why? Thank You ! Vbsez (talk) 07:30, 25 October 2026 (UTC)
- It is now four days from your first edit, not four days from when your account was created. Your first edit was only yesterday.
- What article or page are you trying to move? Generally this should be discussed first. 331dot (talk) 07:35, 25 October 2026 (UTC)
- I got tasked with making a page about a school. Vbsez (talk) 07:45, 25 October 2026 (UTC)
- If you want to make an article about a school, it is best to use the Article Wizard to create and submit a draft. Writing a new article is challenging, especially for a new user without prior experience.
- Who tasked you with this? Are you employed by the school?
- Most schools are actually not notable organizations as we define it. You will need to gather independent reliable sources with critical analysis and commentary about the school(termed "significant coverage")- not sources that are related to the school or merely describe its normal activities. Please see Your First Article. 331dot (talk) 07:48, 25 October 2026 (UTC)
- The school and my countries organization of a kind that usually tells schools what their page is supposed to have an almost every school has one so i received an email to make one. And i have to follow that order. And yeah i am their Web Manager, i manage and create the website and this page i am trying to move. Also my English isn't perfect . Vbsez (talk) 07:53, 25 October 2026 (UTC)
- As their manager, you are required to make a formal paid editing disclosure, I will post instructions on your user talk page. Please review WP:PAID and WP:COI.
- Are you saying that your government instructed you to create an article about your school? 331dot (talk) 07:55, 25 October 2026 (UTC)
- Yes and its not just the government its the Ministry of Education and Science in my country they control those things , i already made the page its in my sandbox. And this is to help parents and other people have info abt this school. Vbsez (talk) 07:57, 25 October 2026 (UTC)
- Your English seems good enough, but you could try editing the Wikipedia of your primary language instead- that Wikipedia likely needs the help much more than we do, and you will not struggle to understand or to be understood. It also likely has looser standards for inclusion than we do. 331dot (talk) 07:57, 25 October 2026 (UTC)
- its in the countries language not in english. Vbsez (talk) 07:58, 25 October 2026 (UTC)
- Yes, there is a Wikipedia for pretty much every language; there is nothing special about the English Wikipedia, it is not the premier Wikipedia. Just something to consider so you would be more comfortable, is all.
- Your government is putting you in a very difficult position. As I said, most schools do not meet our criteria for inclusion- and what you say is the purpose of the government's request is considered promotional here(see WP:YESPROMO). Wikipedia has no interest in helping your government provide information about schools- it should be doing this on its own website or asking schools to do so on their websites. The English Wikipedia is primarily interested in what independent sources say about a topic, not what it wants to say about itself.
- Please read WP:PAIDADVICE and WP:BOSS, and show them to your superiors and colleagues.
- What government is asking you to do this? (Normally I would not ask, but it would become clear once you create a draft or article about your school) 331dot (talk) 08:03, 25 October 2026 (UTC)
- There are smaller schools and honestly this school has many mentions and its the biggest school in the whole municipality , and the BG government (Bulgarian) as there schools and not just some schools but its every school and if i don't do this i might be in a bit of trouble. Tho i believe if a lot of schools have it this one should too cause i see them everywhere i even checked the criteria and the school was very known and passed the other things. Vbsez (talk) 08:08, 25 October 2026 (UTC)
- @Vbsez The article you created in your sandbox is not in English so it will not be included in the English language Wikipedia. Shantavira|feed me 08:16, 25 October 2026 (UTC)
- ik it isn't supposed to be included in the english language wikipedia . Vbsez (talk) 08:18, 25 October 2026 (UTC)
- Then you need to go to the Bulgarian Wikipedia and edit there, as I indicated. We cannot post an article to the Bulgarian Wikipedia for you. Here is a direct link: bg
.wikipedia 331dot (talk) 08:20, 25 October 2026 (UTC).org - Thx i figured it out and thx for the time. Vbsez (talk) 08:30, 25 October 2026 (UTC)
- Then you need to go to the Bulgarian Wikipedia and edit there, as I indicated. We cannot post an article to the Bulgarian Wikipedia for you. Here is a direct link: bg
- ik it isn't supposed to be included in the english language wikipedia . Vbsez (talk) 08:18, 25 October 2026 (UTC)
- @Vbsez The article you created in your sandbox is not in English so it will not be included in the English language Wikipedia. Shantavira|feed me 08:16, 25 October 2026 (UTC)
- There are smaller schools and honestly this school has many mentions and its the biggest school in the whole municipality , and the BG government (Bulgarian) as there schools and not just some schools but its every school and if i don't do this i might be in a bit of trouble. Tho i believe if a lot of schools have it this one should too cause i see them everywhere i even checked the criteria and the school was very known and passed the other things. Vbsez (talk) 08:08, 25 October 2026 (UTC)
- its in the countries language not in english. Vbsez (talk) 07:58, 25 October 2026 (UTC)
- The school and my countries organization of a kind that usually tells schools what their page is supposed to have an almost every school has one so i received an email to make one. And i have to follow that order. And yeah i am their Web Manager, i manage and create the website and this page i am trying to move. Also my English isn't perfect . Vbsez (talk) 07:53, 25 October 2026 (UTC)
- I got tasked with making a page about a school. Vbsez (talk) 07:45, 25 October 2026 (UTC)
Issue regarding editing user page
[edit]Hello, I am a regular Wikipedia editor. As I forgot the password to my previous account and there was no email address linked to the account, I could no longer log in. Therefore, according to the guideline, I have created a new account. As per the Template:Lost password guideline, I have to write on the user page of the previous account that I will no longer use the old account. But when I went to write on the user page of my old account Snusho yesterday, it showed that a new user cannot write on another account's user page. And today when I went to write about the lost password, it is showing as an unconstructive edit. I am unable to publish the edit. What should I do now? I have currently written about this on the user page of my new account (Snushoneos) and on the talk page of my previous account (Snusho). Snushoneos (talk) 10:36, 25 October 2026 (UTC)
- @Snushoneos: Try again when your new account becomes autoconfirmed after four days and ten edits. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:12, 25 October 2026 (UTC)
- Okay. I have already made 12 edits. After four days, if I write that on my previous account's user page, will I be able to edit all the Wikipedia articles that I used to edit with my previous account just like before? Will it not be considered sockpuppetry if I do that? I have doubt about this matter. Snushoneos (talk) 12:44, 25 October 2026 (UTC)
- @Snushoneos: You're OK unless you do something like adding a new !vote to a discussion where the old account already did it. It was extended confirmed so some pages cannot be edited while the new account is only autoconfirmed. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:52, 25 October 2026 (UTC)
- Ok thanks. One more thing, during these four days can I edit all articles and create new articles, or do I have to wait four days to become auto-confirmed since I haven't written about the lost password on the user page of my old account yet. However, I have written about this on my old account's user talk. Snushoneos (talk) 18:39, 25 October 2026 (UTC)
- @Snushoneos: Go ahead, but I suggest to wait with doing something if others have opposed it and the old account has done or supported it. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:45, 25 October 2026 (UTC)
- Ok thanks. One more thing, during these four days can I edit all articles and create new articles, or do I have to wait four days to become auto-confirmed since I haven't written about the lost password on the user page of my old account yet. However, I have written about this on my old account's user talk. Snushoneos (talk) 18:39, 25 October 2026 (UTC)
- @Snushoneos: You're OK unless you do something like adding a new !vote to a discussion where the old account already did it. It was extended confirmed so some pages cannot be edited while the new account is only autoconfirmed. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:52, 25 October 2026 (UTC)
- Okay. I have already made 12 edits. After four days, if I write that on my previous account's user page, will I be able to edit all the Wikipedia articles that I used to edit with my previous account just like before? Will it not be considered sockpuppetry if I do that? I have doubt about this matter. Snushoneos (talk) 12:44, 25 October 2026 (UTC)
Article Kite (geometry) with invalid infobox polygon parameter
[edit]Fixing minor lint errors in article Kite (geometry) and the Source Editor preview displayed a red warning:
Preview warning: Page using Template:Infobox polygon with unknown parameter "alt"
Accordingly I removed this parameter, on the assumption that it was similar to other infobox templates where they have been updated but pages created earlier still refer to the older template. The documentation page Template:Infobox polygon doesn't mention anything about that, and just displays the alt= parameter without noting it as deprecated or replaced. The edit is reverted.
There is a tracking category for this template Category:Pages_using_infobox_polygon_with_unknown_parameters that lists Kite (geometry) and one other that also has the same warning in preview (the Ubisoft page is a weird usage, I think, that I'm still looking into)
I'm not familiar with the technology of how infobox parameters are checked and errors are exposed to the Source Editor aside from it being some kind of (Lua ?) magic involving '#invoke:'. So I don't have a handle on where a fix would be applied and by whom, assuming a fix is actually required.
Any advice on how to resolve or who to contact? It looks like other articles using the template don't use the alt= parameter at all e.g. Rectangle, Parallelogram.
TL;DR: infobox has parameter warning that may be invalid, how to get that addressed?
SuperFastSpellChecker (talk) 10:54, 25 October 2026 (UTC)
- @SuperFastSpellChecker: The "alt" parameter was missing from the list of accepted parameter names. This edit should fix it, though it may take a while for the affected articles to disappear from the "unknown parameters" category. -- John of Reading (talk) 12:21, 25 October 2026 (UTC)
- Many thanks, I saw that '#invoke:' snippet but wasn't sure whether it was documentation or the actual validation code. SuperFastSpellChecker (talk) 12:26, 25 October 2026 (UTC)
I have been vandalized.
[edit]My plot summary work on the episode list of "The Adventures of Ozzie and Harriet" has been vandalized.
List of The Adventures of Ozzie and Harriet episodes#Season 1 (1952–53)
I have worked on this for a year and a half. I know the page was long, but there are 14 seasons. People expect more than two lines for a plot summary. I could show you countless examples. This is for history. Entercontainment (talk) 10:54, 25 October 2026 (UTC)
- @Entercontainment Please review WP:ARTICLESIZE, MOS:TVPLOT and WP:DETAIL. Your version of this article was apparently the largest article on Wikipedia, which is certainly disproportionate to the significance of this show. If it's really appropriate you might look at WP:SIZESPLITting some or all of the seasons into their own articles so that you can include the full plot descriptions there. Athanelar (talk) 11:06, 25 October 2026 (UTC)
- It's a content dispute, not vandalism. Special:Longpages confirms there is currently no larger article than 700,082 bytes. Some editors examine that page and you made a target. Splitting per season is the normal practice for long-running shows with detailed plot summaries. At User talk:Entercontainment#Additions to episode lists you asked: "How are my summaries any different than these? Hacks season 1". The answer is in the question: "season 1". Your summaries were longer than most but not extraordinary when I look at some well-known shows in Category:2021 American television seasons. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:31, 25 October 2026 (UTC)
- Is there someone who could do the splitting for me? I don't think I could do it right. Please help. Entercontainment (talk) 11:36, 25 October 2026 (UTC)
- You would anyway need to read up on the relevant processes and make sure it's actually an appropriate split. It's not a simple process that somebody else can do quickly for you. Please read WP:SIZESPLIT and WP:PROSPLIT if you want to look into that. Athanelar (talk) 12:14, 25 October 2026 (UTC)
- Please, please help. I spent a year and a half on that show. Entercontainment (talk) 20:21, 25 October 2026 (UTC)
- Well the good thing is it won't take that long to learn how to split. Athanelar (talk) 20:32, 25 October 2026 (UTC)
- Please, please help. I spent a year and a half on that show. Entercontainment (talk) 20:21, 25 October 2026 (UTC)
- You would anyway need to read up on the relevant processes and make sure it's actually an appropriate split. It's not a simple process that somebody else can do quickly for you. Please read WP:SIZESPLIT and WP:PROSPLIT if you want to look into that. Athanelar (talk) 12:14, 25 October 2026 (UTC)
Wiki Mirrors
[edit]should we still be reporting new AI-scraped Wikipedia mirrors by adding to new mirrors and CC-BY compliance? Hesitating because the page is semiprotected and no one's been adding new entries for a couple years it looks like.
Mirrors and Forks overview might be a little outdated now too, with the million AI bots out there probably pulling text whenever prompted nowadays... elchupacabra (talk) 13:09, 25 October 2026 (UTC)
How to use svg location maps?
[edit]Hi! For the Bach articles (in various languages) I would like to overlay a map of Germany like File:Germany adm location map.svg with graphical information about Bach residences (as shown in File:JSBWohnorte.svg). I have, however, no idea how to do that, except manually, painfully and inaccurately. Can anyone help? Frederic Y Bois (talk) 15:46, 25 October 2026 (UTC)
- Hello, @Frederic Y Bois. The folks at WP:GL/M may be able to help you. ColinFine (talk) 16:07, 25 October 2026 (UTC)
Add my Business History In My account
[edit]How do I add my business history/ bio in Wikipedia:I'm new for having account but I've follower of Wikipedia for many years, Can you help me? Quinnrecordtm (talk) 21:59, 25 October 2026 (UTC)
- Please review the autobiography policy in terms of writing about yourself(the short answer is, not a good idea and isn't likely to work). Also see WP:PAIDADVICE if you want to write about your business. 331dot (talk) 22:05, 25 October 2026 (UTC)
Did I not setup archiving correctly?
[edit]Hey everyone, what did I do wrong here?
I tried to follow WP:ARCHIVE and set up archiving on that article talk page. I used {{subst:Setup auto archiving|archives=yes}} on the page. This was when the lowercase sigma bot was down, but I expected it to eventually start archiving things once it was back up. Did I do something wrong? Should I self-revert and try again? — Chao Garden 🌱 ~ say hello 22:14, 25 October 2026 (UTC)
- It looks OK to me.
- I've moved the template to a new line, in case that makes any difference. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 22:24, 25 October 2026 (UTC)
- @Chao Garden: Looking at the wikitext, there were only three section headings on the page itself. The others are transcluded. The archiving instructions say
minthreadsleft = 4, meaning at least four sections must be left after archiving. You didn't do anything wrong. There just isn't anything for the bot to archive yet. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:31, 25 October 2026 (UTC)- Ohhhhh of course, that makes sense.
- Thank you both for the help! — Chao Garden 🌱 ~ say hello 22:33, 25 October 2026 (UTC)
- @Chao Garden: Looking at the wikitext, there were only three section headings on the page itself. The others are transcluded. The archiving instructions say
Puzzling page stats
[edit]Don't waste too much time on this, but the stats for List of film memorabilia () look odd. Guavabutter is listed first in the authorship list, but doesn't appear at all in the top 20 editors list and is ranked second in the top 10 by added text. It all looks self-contradictory. Does anybody have an easy explanation (or even a hard one)? Clarityfiend (talk) 22:56, 25 October 2026 (UTC)
- @Clarityfiend: Did you look at the page history? Guavabutter made a single edit which added 16 kB. The end of top editors by edits shows many who made a single edit. I don't know how they are ordered. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:11, 25 October 2026 (UTC)
- Similar to how that dinosaur-obliterating asteroid is at the very bottom of Earth's "frequent visitors" list. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 23:19, 25 October 2026 (UTC)
- Okay, thanks. (Doesn't explain why I got attributed with 16K of text in one place and 32k in another, but sufficient to the day the evil thereof.) Clarityfiend (talk) 23:31, 25 October 2026 (UTC)
- You are also credited with at least one massive removal of text. Your total text IN the article is therefore a much lower number than your total additions. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 23:46, 25 October 2026 (UTC)
- Okay, thanks. (Doesn't explain why I got attributed with 16K of text in one place and 32k in another, but sufficient to the day the evil thereof.) Clarityfiend (talk) 23:31, 25 October 2026 (UTC)
Sharing newspaper clippings for source verification
[edit]I am James Van Patten, the subject of the article currently discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/James Van Patten (2nd nomination). I have disclosed my conflict of interest. Ansgar Slopsbane suggested I ask here for help.
I have clear photographs of two complete articles: Paul Hodgins, "Familiarity breeds success," The Orange County Register, July 10, 2003, pages 4-5, and Michelle Bruell, "A Family Affair: Both On and Off the Court," Los Angeles Tennis magazine, April 1996, pages 13 and 35.
How can I make these available to an independent editor for verification while respecting copyright? Is there a way to share them privately? Thank you. JamesVP1956 (talk) 07:37, 26 October 2026 (UTC)
- You don't need to make them available to another editor; if they were used in an article, you would only need to provide citation information(publisher, title, author, page number, publication date, etc). For purposes of the deletion discussion, just explain what is said in the sources.
- I will say that if the sources are interviews with you, they can't be used to establish notability. They can be used for other purposes, but not that. 331dot (talk) 07:51, 26 October 2026 (UTC)
- I'm going to suggest that you read this page; the presence of an article on Wikipedia about you is not necessarily something to desire. 331dot (talk) 07:52, 26 October 2026 (UTC)
Update to demographic/cultural information and sources of the Asantes
[edit]Hello,
I recently made an edit to update information on the Asante people page using data from PeopleGroups.org and Joshua Project. Another editor reverted the change back to the previous version.
I'd like to open a discussion here on how we can properly incorporate this up-to-date data, or what secondary academic/demographic sources we can pair it with to satisfy Wikipedia's verifiability guidelines. also, there's no credible source that proves that Ashantis are 10 million in Ghana so please help to correct this mistake and the Ghanaian government already proved with their 2021 census that there's not 11,000,000 people in the Ashanti region. ~2026-57143-84 (talk) 11:22, 26 October 2026 (UTC)
- Hi ~2026-57143-84 I have no idea about the reliability of PeopleGroups.org, but please note that the Joshua Project is NOT a WP:Reliable source as per WP:JOSHUAPROJECT. - Arjayay (talk) 11:38, 26 October 2026 (UTC)
- Judging by the 'About Peoplegroups' note at the bottom of the page linked, they look no more reliable than the Joshua Project, for much the same reason. Most of their data seems to be derived from a 'CPPI Church Planting Progress Indicator', whatever that is. AndyTheGrump (talk) 11:59, 26 October 2026 (UTC)
'CPPI Church Planting Progress Indicator', whatever that is
- That would be the organization's self-published report on their campaign of starting new congregations. If they were a restaurant chain, the title would be "New Franchises Report". TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 16:38, 26 October 2026 (UTC)
- Judging by the 'About Peoplegroups' note at the bottom of the page linked, they look no more reliable than the Joshua Project, for much the same reason. Most of their data seems to be derived from a 'CPPI Church Planting Progress Indicator', whatever that is. AndyTheGrump (talk) 11:59, 26 October 2026 (UTC)
Asante people and their suspicious population figures
[edit]I would like to call attention to some highly inaccurate population metrics currently listed in this article that lack credible source verification. Specifically, the article alleges there are 10 million Asante people and implies that the population of the Ashanti Region has reached 11 million. These figures drastically contradict official demographic data, such as the Ghana Statistical Service census results, which pin the total population of the entire Ashanti Region closer to 5.4 million people. Presenting unverified figures double this size introduces severe misinformation.
I request that the active editors of this page correct these metrics and require strict adherence to reliable, peer-reviewed, or official census citations before publishing population totals. ~2026-57048-48 (talk) 15:57, 26 October 2026 (UTC)
- If you have reliable sources at hand to cite, AND if the previous editors did not cite any sources before, then you should change it yourself and add the source citation. If you need help with how to cite a source, please see Help:Referencing for beginners. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 16:09, 26 October 2026 (UTC)
PHP fix related question (re: xtools.toolforge.org)
[edit]Is there a discussion someplace about the various tools here? I use (or used to use) some of these quite a lot and am eager to know when they might be restored. Cheers, Cl3phact0 (talk) 11:55, 26 October 2026 (UTC)
- I saw someone suggest (maybe half joking) that they would just leave here for a week - I guess to avoid the suspense. Being eager can make it difficult to watch things keep not happening yet. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 16:20, 26 October 2026 (UTC)
- @Cl3phact0, WP:PHP2026 says that toolforge should be fixed now. If parts you use are not working, I suggest you ask one of the experts who has posted at that link. Mike Turnbull (talk) 17:09, 26 October 2026 (UTC)
- Thanks, that's quite helpful. It seems that the issue I'm having is with
{{Userpageinfo}}(which I use on my Talk page), not the tools themselves. I don't know how to fix this. Edit Counter works per usual via the normal url. Cheers, Cl3phact0 (talk) 08:31, 27 October 2026 (UTC)
- Thanks, that's quite helpful. It seems that the issue I'm having is with
- @TooManyFingers: All sage advice that. Thanks. Curiosity killed the cat; the second mouse gets the cheese; a watched pot never boils, etc.; and patience is indeed a virtue—if one can bear the unbearable suspense. -- Cl3phact0 (talk) 08:40, 27 October 2026 (UTC)
- The early worm gets the bird ... TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 15:25, 27 October 2026 (UTC)
- Perhaps, but is that outcome actually in its best interest (as the bird invariably eats the early worm first too)? -- Cl3phact0 (talk) 16:25, 27 October 2026 (UTC)
- The early worm gets the bird ... TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 15:25, 27 October 2026 (UTC)
- @Cl3phact0, WP:PHP2026 says that toolforge should be fixed now. If parts you use are not working, I suggest you ask one of the experts who has posted at that link. Mike Turnbull (talk) 17:09, 26 October 2026 (UTC)
How do I change a picture?
[edit]I want to change a picture of Angus Konstam, author Davey beuy (talk) 12:49, 26 October 2026 (UTC)
- See WP:PICYOU, WP:IMGDD, and WP:UPIMAGE. -- Cl3phact0 (talk) 14:20, 26 October 2026 (UTC)
GA nomination
[edit]How long can it take for a GA nomination to be reviewed? ItsShandog (talk) 13:32, 26 October 2026 (UTC)
- I don't think there's a set time. Just expect everything on Wikipedia to be far slower than you hoped.
- Here's a weird but true sentence: A lot of people do work here, but no one works here. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 16:14, 26 October 2026 (UTC)
- In extreme cases up to a year, but most get reviewed within a month or two if I recall correctly. There is unfortunately a rather hefty backlog (we just managed to get it back down to under 1,000 articles needing a GA review). –Maltazarian ᚾparleyinvestigateᛅ 21:26, 26 October 2026 (UTC)
Correct action to do
[edit]For context, I am in a dispute at Talk:Maize, though this is a more general question. What should be done when two editors get into a dispute but one does not care about the outcome or does not see it as important enough to continue disputing? If this was a real world argument, I would just do what I want. However, since this is a collaborative project, that feels a bit improper or even scummy to do. ✶Quxyz✶ (talk) 13:36, 26 October 2026 (UTC)
- I looked. PrimeHunter apparently looked before I did, and responded, and I completely agree with him about the article content.
- I would say that you were mostly or completely right about the topic, but for a few of the things you pointed out (Greek for example), the best solution will not always be to explain everything (for example, Greek should not be mentioned at all in the lead, and Latin shouldn't either). If there's a mention later in the article about etymology, what goes there should be attested by reliable sources. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 16:00, 26 October 2026 (UTC)
Oklahoma City Bombing
[edit]The information of how many people were killed, and how many buildings etc....is incorrect. It was very tragic, but not 6 million killed. Thank you for checking it for accuracy.
~2026-57184-59 (talk) 14:10, 26 October 2026 (UTC)
- That looks to have been some very recent vandalism, which was swiftly reverted by User:Celjski Grad. The article has now been restored to its prior, accurate state. crtbob@talk:~$ ls contribs 14:28, 26 October 2026 (UTC)
- If you saw this on the Knowledge Graph on Google or whatever other search engine, those are cached and will not immediately update once the offending claim is fixed/updated. You can always attempt to bypass or purge your browser's cache to see if that will fix it. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v Thriller Night! 16:47, 26 October 2026 (UTC)
Reviving an account
[edit]Can I get an admin to revive a dormant account?
I had one when I did some writing and editing way back, years ago. I'm actually wanting to make a regular donation, but wanted to link with that account name, who knows I might even start sticking my oar in again. I tried making a new account with the same name but it wasn't having it. OK worst case I could make another new account and keep it going and give it a related name: I'm really just being sentimental/awkward: but if it's something an admin can easily do i'd make me smile a little inwardly. Naturally I can tell you the account name and provide other details, I'm just not doing it now for security reasons. ~2026-57216-69 (talk) 17:10, 26 October 2026 (UTC)
- Accounts are not deleted due to inactivity. If you cannot log into your previous account, you can create a new account and make a note on the new account's user page that you previously edited under the old username. Giving the old name is not a security risk. RudolfRed (talk) 17:53, 26 October 2026 (UTC)
- Thanks! ~2026-57216-69 (talk) 14:50, 27 October 2026 (UTC)
- Hello, @~2026-57216-69. RudolfRed has advised you about your (editing) account. Any donations you made or wish to make are complete separate from your editing account: there is intentionally no connection whatever, and nothing anywhere in the Wikipedia software knows anything about donations. (If you are logged into an account, you can set a preference to stop it displaying the "donation" banners - but you can do so irrespective of whether you have ever donated). ColinFine (talk) 18:01, 26 October 2026 (UTC)
- Thanks! ~2026-57216-69 (talk) 14:49, 27 October 2026 (UTC)
- Accounts and passwords never expire or become dormant. If you know the password then you can just log in. If you don't know the password but stored a working email address in the account then you can use Special:PasswordReset. See also meta:Help:Account recovery. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:29, 26 October 2026 (UTC)
- Thanks! ~2026-57216-69 (talk) 14:49, 27 October 2026 (UTC)
Article Publication
[edit]I submitted an article and its been in draft status for a long time. When it will be moved to a published article Mydct311! (talk) 17:13, 26 October 2026 (UTC)
- @Mydct311! You did not submit it for review and so no one has seen it. I've added the button to allow you to submit the draft for review. qcne (talk) 17:18, 26 October 2026 (UTC)
- You did submit it but removed the submission template two hours later. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:32, 26 October 2026 (UTC)
Why do these tables have different width
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The only difference in wikitext is:
{|class="wikitable"
|-
!colspan=2 style="width:12.65%" |X
!colspan=31 style="width:29.45%" |A
!colspan=31 style="width:29.45%" |B
!colspan=31 style="width:29.45%" |C
|-
!colspan=2 style="width:12.65%" |testingtestingtesting/uhh
|colspan=93 style="width:87.35%" |
|-
!colspan=2 style="width:12.65%" |hmm
|colspan=93 style="width:87.35%" |
|} –Maltazarian ᚾparleyinvestigateᛅ 20:24, 26 October 2026 (UTC)
- The first column is set to be 12.65% of the width of the table. The whole table has to be bigger for a 12.65%-wide slice to fit that longer text. LittlePuppers (talk) 20:58, 26 October 2026 (UTC)
- I see. I assume this would work if I added cells under A that added up to more than A too, which is related to the issue I'm having, which is headers not adding up to their intended sizes when cells span across multiple headers unevenly (i.e. a 4 column cell having 3 columns fall under A and one under B) – I made the above tables as a toy model because the actual templates I'm working with are a bit much. I have to do some further testing. –Maltazarian ᚾparleyinvestigateᛅ 21:18, 26 October 2026 (UTC)
- Going to move this to WP:Helpdesk, idk why I went to WP:VPT. –Maltazarian ᚾparleyinvestigateᛅ 21:19, 26 October 2026 (UTC)
- Wait ... Stupid question, but why do you have colspan=31 when there are only 4 columns? Don't you need 31 actual columns for that? Am I just misunderstanding? TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 23:23, 26 October 2026 (UTC)
- Context is that I'm making a quarterly calendar where I want each day to account for the same amount of width. It started out as being intended for WP:WikiCalendar (where you can see the issue with cells split unevenly between colums not being treated as such) but I've gotten it to the point of being fully functional for any quarterly calendar except for the tiny detail of me not being able to fully figure out the width.
- The actual wikitext in play here can be found at WP:WikiCalendar/template and TM:Calendar template template, and is wayyy more complicated, hence the toy model. –Maltazarian ᚾparleyinvestigateᛅ 23:47, 26 October 2026 (UTC)
- Wait ... Stupid question, but why do you have colspan=31 when there are only 4 columns? Don't you need 31 actual columns for that? Am I just misunderstanding? TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 23:23, 26 October 2026 (UTC)
- I'm NO good at this, but the width of the whole table is not explicitly defined anywhere. Does that end up meaning "limitlessly expand the entire thing to remain in proportion to the fullest cell"? TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 22:23, 26 October 2026 (UTC)
- It can be defined next to class="wikitable" but I have not seen it have an effect so I left it out. –Maltazarian ᚾparleyinvestigateᛅ 22:32, 26 October 2026 (UTC)
- I expected to be wrong, but worth a try I guess. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 23:14, 26 October 2026 (UTC)
- It can be defined next to class="wikitable" but I have not seen it have an effect so I left it out. –Maltazarian ᚾparleyinvestigateᛅ 22:32, 26 October 2026 (UTC)
TAIV rights
[edit]Hi there,
I think I might be worrying too much, but I'd just like someone to check with me that I am right. I have applied for TAIV rights, but most of the time people get a response very quickly; mine has been open for almost a day (almost nothing for normal rights, I agree). I have 4000 edits and quite a lot in counter-vandalism, etc. Is this a reasonable profile for applying?
Thanks. Equivalent-Text2598 (talk) 23:36, 26 October 2026 (UTC)
- Short answer: I think you've just hit the admin roulette - a day is not too long. I'll head there now. Longer answer: While having a registered account for six months is a hard limit, which you pass, having 98% of your edits in less than that six months is an added factor which can take time to ponder. -- zzuuzz (talk) 23:51, 26 October 2026 (UTC)
- OK, cheers. Thank you very much. Have a great day. Equivalent-Text2598 (talk) 23:53, 26 October 2026 (UTC)
m,y girlfriend wants wikipedia for christmas
[edit]please i have $20 ~2026-57119-25 (talk) 23:37, 26 October 2026 (UTC)
- It's all free! However, if you're asking for an article about her, your girlfriend better be a celebrity, or no deal. Clarityfiend (talk) 00:44, 27 October 2026 (UTC)
- 'Celebrity' isn't a Wikipedia notability criteria. And there are plenty of ways to be Wikipedia-notable than don't involve assumptions about gender roles. AndyTheGrump (talk) 03:20, 27 October 2026 (UTC)
- Hello, @~2026-57119-25. If you're asking for an article about her, then, as Andy says, only if she passes the criteria for notability - which mostly means that several serious journalists or other writers, who have no connection with her, have chosen to write in depth about her, and been published in reliable places: see WP:42. Most people in the world do not meet these criteria, even if they have done remarkable things. ColinFine (talk) 10:24, 27 October 2026 (UTC)
Archive url status
[edit]What's the difference between "unfit" and "usurped"? Clarityfiend (talk) 00:41, 27 October 2026 (UTC)
- As far as I know, "unfit" refers to someone or something who isn't suitable. For example "he was unfit to rule; he couldn't take care of the kingdom". "Usurped" on the other hand refers to stealing a position from someone. For example "Macbeth usurped King Duncan's throne". Hope this helps! Giovanni Guasconti (a word with me) 02:06, 27 October 2026 (UTC)
- Apologies for my absolutely off-topic answer. I didn’t notice the section heading. Giovanni Guasconti (a word with me) 04:20, 27 October 2026 (UTC)
- Reading through Template:Cite web#URL, it appears that
unfitis for when a page is no longer suitable, whileusurpedis for when a domain in no longer suitable. Unsure why we have the two separate params though (possibly for tracking reasons?), but both will essentially suppress the URL. nil nz 04:02, 27 October 2026 (UTC)- Unfit = "the original correct host still owns this page, but has turned it into something else"?
- I think so ... TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 04:26, 27 October 2026 (UTC)
- Thanks. Clarityfiend (talk) 14:11, 27 October 2026 (UTC)
Fixing a taxon template
[edit]hi!
Im trying to modify a fossil taxa based on a recent study. However even after making the template and all that, its still giving an error, saying that the parent taxa is not defined. Is there something wrong that i did?
Thanks
Link for the page: Pucadelphys Stmbus (talk) 00:47, 27 October 2026 (UTC)
- nvm. Its fixed now. Stmbus (talk) 01:00, 27 October 2026 (UTC)
Capitol Hill mystery soda machine
[edit]This one has some weird categories
- Former amusement attractions
- Amusement park attractions introduced in 1990
- Amusement park attractions that closed in 2018
How do I remove them? What needs to be done to stop whatever automated process is adding categories that I can't delete by editing the page? --Guy Macon (talk) 03:07, 27 October 2026 (UTC)
- @Guy Macon: the listed categories are generated by the template {{Infobox attraction}}, see the "Article categories" section. Presumably if the categories are wrong, the wrong template is being used or the template has been filled in incorrectly. TSventon (talk) 03:21, 27 October 2026 (UTC)
- I see. This clearly isn't an amusement park attraction and there is no infobox vending machine so I think I should delete the infobox. --Guy Macon (talk) 03:44, 27 October 2026 (UTC)
- @Guy Macon: I found an undocumented parameter
|auto-cat = no. We often use an available infobox if it gives a suitable result and I think it's OK now. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:13, 27 October 2026 (UTC)- Nice! We really need to document this where it is easy to find. --Guy Macon (talk) 15:00, 27 October 2026 (UTC)
- Agreed, the cat page says
Any article containing this template is automatically added to additional categories based on the following parameters unless
, but it is easy to miss that (and I did until now). TSventon (talk) 15:14, 27 October 2026 (UTC)|auto-cat=nois set
- Agreed, the cat page says
- Nice! We really need to document this where it is easy to find. --Guy Macon (talk) 15:00, 27 October 2026 (UTC)
- @Guy Macon: I found an undocumented parameter
- I see. This clearly isn't an amusement park attraction and there is no infobox vending machine so I think I should delete the infobox. --Guy Macon (talk) 03:44, 27 October 2026 (UTC)
AI cleanup reach out
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We welcome any and all editors to join WP:WikiProject AI Cleanup – to combat the mass problem of AI-generated content. We are currently overwhelmed with 292 AI open cases that need cleanup! Moxy🍁 05:24, 27 October 2026 (UTC)
How do I remove "the" from my user name?
[edit]No users are actually called "Southern Ocean". I added "the" because when I started it told me it was too similar to another name, but I can't find anyone here actually using the name. The Southern Ocean (talk) 07:44, 27 October 2026 (UTC)
- 2 ways
If you are certain you want to change your username, use the appropriate request page linked at WP:UCREQUEST.
or
Customizing how everyone sees your signature without a name change request, see WP:FANCYSIG
- Moxy🍁 07:57, 27 October 2026 (UTC)
- Hi, @Moxy I changed a semicolon to ":" in your post, because your signature looked weird. I hope you don't mind! --Maresa63 Talk 10:09, 27 October 2026 (UTC)
- Hi The Southern Ocean. There is a "Southernocean" but it's a 2013 account with no edits anywhere: Special:CentralAuth/Southernocean. You could point this out if you request a username change. Special:CentralAuth/SouthernOcean7 has five old edits. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:58, 27 October 2026 (UTC)
- Hi, @Moxy I changed a semicolon to ":" in your post, because your signature looked weird. I hope you don't mind! --Maresa63 Talk 10:09, 27 October 2026 (UTC)
Correct Phrase
[edit]Once upon time or Once upon a time
Ozempic
[edit]Since I went on Medicare, I can’t get my Ozempic shots anymore, the cost is over 875.00. I was paying 40.00 when I was working. I need these shots to control my blood sugar. Can you please advise what I can do? I haven’t taking this now since 08/01/2026, as I’m unable to get. Thank you UPADK UPADK (talk) 14:43, 27 October 2026 (UTC)
- Hi @UPADK,
- I'm sorry to hear that, but we can't help you here. This is the Wikipedia Help Desk, a space to ask questions about Wikipedia editing. Giovanni Guasconti (a word with me) 15:00, 27 October 2026 (UTC)
Fixing table overflow for table with sticky headers?
[edit]
Very wide tables often "overflow" the bounds of the page requiring scrolling horizontally past the usual bounds that hold the rest of a page's content. This is usually fixed by wrapping the table with <div class="overflowbugx" style="overflow-x:auto;">...</div>, however it seems this doesn't work when a table uses {{sticky header}}. Is there a way to fix the overflow bug while keeping the sticking column headings? Or are these just fundamentally incompatible?
The specific table I'm trying to fix is one at {{List of chemical elements}}. – Scyrme (talk/solidarity) 16:10, 27 October 2026 (UTC)